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Post by Anthony G on Oct 21, 2008 20:17:25 GMT -5
This is probably my favorite tier list ever. I couldn't agree with it anymore.
"This is the final tier list for Super Smash Bros. Melee. Completed October 2008. Approved by M3D. All values are conclusive and finalized.
Top Fox 9.9 Marth 9.9 Sheik 9.7 Falco 9.2
High Peach 8.4 Captain Falcon 8.0 Jigglypuff 8.0 Ice Climbers 7.9
Middle Samus 6.8 Dr. Mario 6.2 Ganondorf 6.0 Luigi 5.8 Donkey Kong 5.4 Mario 5.3
Low Link 4.7 Pikachu 4.3 Young Link 4.2 Roy 3.6 Zelda 3.0 Game and Watch 3.0
Bottom Ness 2.5 Yoshi 2.5 Bowser 2.2 Mewtwo 1.8 Kirby 1.5 Pichu 1.2"
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DERRICK
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Post by DERRICK on Oct 21, 2008 21:32:16 GMT -5
i actually agree with this
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Post by Anthony G on Oct 22, 2008 9:31:02 GMT -5
I propose new tier:
Falco Tier: Falco 9.2
Because Falco is way too good for high tier but not good enough for top tier. If Falco had Fox's recovery I would expect him to be second best in the game. Maybe best. IDK.
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Post by Mizagium on Oct 22, 2008 13:53:46 GMT -5
I totally agree with just about everything.
Haha, Ice Climbers top tier. Thanks Chu Dat.
I guess I'm okay with Samus at top of Middle Tier. Rob will be happy, Mewtwo is not the worst character anymore, Pichu is.
I hate Marth so much!
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Post by Anthony G on Oct 22, 2008 17:31:23 GMT -5
Blame Mew2king for Marth faggotry. IMO, Marth should be 3rd best (switch with Sheik), but tournament rankings suggest otherwise so I can't help but agree with the list.
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Post by Duke Nukem on Oct 22, 2008 19:00:44 GMT -5
Why is Link so low?
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Post by Anthony G on Oct 23, 2008 9:34:15 GMT -5
In the first tier list created Link was middle tier, but the metagame has changed and Link has not been able to adapt. His moves came out too slow, but you could argue that his projectiles made him playable. However, people have nearly perfected their spacing so that they are able to punish to Link if he attempts to pull out a bomb or his boomerang. If you ever watch Mew2king play against Links or Peaches, pay attention to how he spaces and you’ll notice that he will not allow Link/Peach to pull out a bomb/turnip without punishment. Jason has a very similar style, and he spaces so well that my Link cannot pull out a fast enough attack to even hit him.
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Post by Duke Nukem on Oct 23, 2008 15:23:08 GMT -5
Damn metagame kills all the fun characters...
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DERRICK
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Post by DERRICK on Oct 23, 2008 15:28:19 GMT -5
METAGAMES ARE BAD!! JUST PLAY THE GAME AND HAVE FUN! IS THAT JUST TOO HARD TO COMPREHEND?
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Post by Mizagium on Oct 23, 2008 15:59:04 GMT -5
METAGAMES ARE BAD!! JUST PLAY THE GAME AND HAVE FUN! IS THAT JUST TOO HARD TO COMPREHEND? yes.
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Post by Anthony G on Oct 23, 2008 16:58:15 GMT -5
I have more fun with it when I play the metagame.
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Post by Mizagium on Oct 23, 2008 17:18:19 GMT -5
I used to just play for fun/lulz. But then I played with people who played the metagame, i.e. the band. I had to quickly learn the metagame to keep up.
How about this.
I play for fun. It is no fun to loose. In order to win, I have to play the metagame.
Therefore, in order to have fun, I have to play the metagame.
Yeah Geometry and your stupid proofs!
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jAke sMiTh is [Br]eaking [Ba]d
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wat r gramer
a man can only be pushed by himself so long before he snaps; and then he just decides to Break Bad
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Post by jAke sMiTh is [Br]eaking [Ba]d on Oct 23, 2008 22:01:38 GMT -5
yea its fun to just play, but if u get raped (ie jason vs jimmy lolz 9%) (you had to be there) and lose everytime it's not as fun so if some of us play a little bit outside of school to get a little bit better so win a litle bit more....uhhh ok i forgot where im going with this....basically it's not all about teh lolz!
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Post by BBQ on Oct 24, 2008 9:58:50 GMT -5
Whenever I lose to Jason, I don’t feel bad about losing. In fact, every time I am able to approach him successfully or play defensively successfully, I view it as an achievement. Jason is incredibly difficult to play against, and there is just something about him that when I play against him I can’t do shit on him. Maybe he’s just able to avoid it all, but it seems unlikely. I’ve asked Jason to come again after school to play, and we’re doing 1v1 only (just me and him) so don’t ask to play because you will be ignored (you probably won’t read this until later so whatev). I don’t get pissed when I lose to someone better than me, but when I know a player is worse than me I get really pissed if I lose. This morning made me more nervous than I have ever been while playing smash. The one where it was teams (Me + Frank vs Tyler + Tyler), Me (C. Falcon), Frank (Jiggs), Tyler D (Fox), Tyler C (Samus)- team attack off. Frank and I were down 5 stocks. Tyler kept shine spiking us, plus Tyler C was spamming so we couldn’t do shit. I was on my last stock at 90% and Frank was on his second stock at 80%. I decided to suicide so I could take Frank’s lost stock because I knew Frank would not be able to handle Team Tyler by himself. Soon after, Frank got killed by an upair by Fox, so I was left by myself. Tyler Davis had 3 stocks and Tyler C. had 2. I killed Tyler D. (he was at like 198%), and later killed him again at 68% by edgeguarding. Then he accidentally side b’d off the stage at like 10% so it was just me and Tyler C. Tyler told Tyler to just spam super missiles and I would have lost if I wasn’t in a convenient position to falcon kick to recover. I just played super defensive and would run in and do a knee if I saw an opening. Then I would run away, but keep a safe distance so he wouldn’t be able to super missile me. All of the damage I did was from Knees, and that racked him up to about 90%. Then I tried edgeguarding him, but Samus is like impossible to kill so I had the hardest time doing that while trying not to screw up and suicide (I was so nervous, I knew I had to play very carefully if I didn’t want to mess up). I got Samus to like 150% and I had only gotten hit by like 2 super missiles the entire time. I have no experience with high percent combos with Falcon, so I just had to guess and I did down-throw to knee. I had no clue how it hit because the down-throw sent him higher than the knee’s hitbox is. It was the most ridiculous match ever, and I was still shaking by the time I got to first period.
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DERRICK
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Post by DERRICK on Oct 24, 2008 17:34:57 GMT -5
I just play to have fun. There is nothing better than having Robby as your partner and screw him over. (Example: Die. Take his life even though he told me not to. Robby dies. I get kicked around and end up jumping off the edge saying, "Screw you guys!" then i do a falcon kick to enhance my suicide. Robby is pissed, and i laugh my ass off. Seriously, who needs a metagame?)
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Post by Mizagium on Oct 24, 2008 21:54:19 GMT -5
Yeah, missile spamming!
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Post by Anthony G on Oct 25, 2008 17:09:29 GMT -5
I just play to have fun. There is nothing better than having Robby as your partner and screw him over. (Example: Die. Take his life even though he told me not to. Robby dies. I get kicked around and end up jumping off the edge saying, "Screw you guys!" then i do a falcon kick to enhance my suicide. Robby is pissed, and i laugh my ass off. Seriously, who needs a metagame?) that match was so win.
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DERRICK
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fuck the meta game
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Post by DERRICK on Oct 25, 2008 18:19:55 GMT -5
thank you
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Post by Sartorius on Oct 25, 2008 20:49:19 GMT -5
Lmao isn't this tier list 7 years too late? Honestly...I'm happy that the most powerful Pokemon of the RBY generation isn't at the very bottom any longer. Other than that I'm indifferent.
BTW CHAOS EMERALD NOW
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Post by Mizagium on Oct 25, 2008 21:14:16 GMT -5
why is your name, "the end"?
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Post by Anthony G on Oct 26, 2008 11:31:57 GMT -5
Lmao isn't this tier list 7 years too late? Honestly...I'm happy that the most powerful Pokemon of the RBY generation isn't at the very bottom any longer. Other than that I'm indifferent. This is like the 5th tier list they've made for Melee. Melee's metagame has changed so much (and still has a while to go in many people's opinions) so they had to make a new tier list. I won't be surprised if they make a new one in a year or so. You also have to remember that tournaments for Melee are still going on and a character's dominance change every so often (*cough* Marth).
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Post by Duke Nukem on Oct 28, 2008 17:37:34 GMT -5
GO TEAM DERRICK, SO ALL ROBBIES MAY TREMBLE
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Post by Mizagium on Oct 28, 2008 19:07:39 GMT -5
that life-stealing move was epic.
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Post by DERRICK on Oct 28, 2008 19:22:54 GMT -5
falcon kick!!!! *Robby dies* *i press start* HA HA!!!!
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Post by Mizagium on Oct 28, 2008 19:34:21 GMT -5
so much win...
The last match we played b4 parade practice (useless) was me(Samus), Anthony, frank (Fox and Falco) and Rob(Roy) The was a pretty intense match and I think I got better just from that matche.
I could feel it as the match wore on. Too bad it was left unfinished at 2 stocks each.
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